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At any rate, this is my honest opinion.

Is anything likely to come of his proposal?

I'm not sure that it will because I don't know anybody who's enthusiastic about it. It can happen, but I don't know of anybody else who really wants it. And I'm not enthusiastic about it, if it means the elimination of the council, because I think, on balance, at least the present council has some very intelligent people on it who are doing very updated and intelligent things, including Mike Gorman and several other people.

It would be detrimental to the whole NIH picture, wouldn't it, a development of this sort? Why wouldn't other component parts of NH want to do the same thing?

Well, maybe they would or do, but it's just that what's under proposed legislation that is going to be taken up by the House soon is related to the building of community centers and a variety of things that hadn't heretofore been considered in the amounts of money involved, and the details involved seem to make--I don't know why Dr. Felix wants to do this, because it could be handled under the present Institutes setup. I just don't know that will happen.

Because the state pay for 97 percent of the care of people who are mentally ill in state mental hospitals, the problem of