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and if I don't support it with any funds, it will cease to exist.

But I mean you are in constant contact with the Committee as such...

I am in contact with Mike Gorman, who is the Executive Director of the Committee, and who does a great deal of work, but his office is in Washington because he wants to be in touch with what's going on at the National Mental Health Institute, and he's on the Council. And I speak to him on the telephone very frequently and we see each other frequently when we're in Washington, and I supply a great many ideas for the things that he acts on. He has many ideas himself. He's very competent as a speaker and as a writer, and he's very dedicated to the idea of working in this field. He wrote an excellent book called Every Other Bed on the situation in state mental hospitals about eight years ago, and he's one of the most outspoken and best crusaders in any field of health, in any voluntary agency. If I were to stop supporting the committee, I doubt that he could raise the money to continue, and he's not a good executive or administrator but he's a wonderful, zealous or under.

And the Committee is in large part Mike Gorman's effort.

Yes, and of his activities. He goes around to various states and makes speeches at state mental health committees or committees of the National Mental Health Association. He visits