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star. But we used Claudette Colbert and various people.

This was a very clever idea.

And it worked, and it supplied me with money enough so that I was independent. Then I worked for a man....

You had left Mr. Reinhardt?

Oh, yes. I was divorced in '34. I went to Reno with Kay Swift, a great friend of mine, a songwriter, who was then married to James Warburg. We went to Reno together, but by this time the Hollywood Patterns were already beginning to sell. And my father had died in '33 and I had inherited a little money as well, and I was managing my father's estate for my mother and my sister.

That was a difficult time to invest money, wasn't it?

Oh, it was terrible, terrible, it was ghastly. The whole thing was a misery.

In dealing with your father's estate, and in your investing of the money, what did you learn from your experience in the business world?

Well, I learned that people associated with my father