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Well, about this time I was asked to make out a will and when thinking aloud with a lawyer about how I wanted to dispose of my funds, I thought that I would like to establish awards, similar to the Nobel Prizes, in medical research only or in the field of health and medicine. And when the idea struck me, I was so emotionally moved by the idea that I might be able to do this after I died, that I thought, “Well, why don't I do it while I'm alive, if this is all so exciting to me?” And, indeed, this is how it started: I decided I'd do it while I was alive.

And give it some direction...

Yes. I must say that Albert was not at all interested in the awards and was sort of embarrassed by them, because he didn't like to have his name attached to anything. He had an absolute passion for anonymity in anything he did, and the fact that the awards had his name somehow embarrassed him, and he never really paid any attention to them or did anything about them, except that he allowed me to use his money to give them.

Did he attend at the presentations?

Never. He never went near a presentation, paid no attention whatever. Sometimes he might read about it in the paper and become embarrassed about it. Now, I really think this