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was behind in scientific education and that large numbers of scholarships in science especially and the teaching of science needed to be implemented in a large way.

Senator Hill prepared a bill which became the Defense Education Act, and in the beginning, when he started to prepare the bill, he recognized that there was a need for fellowships, and when I came to see him that fall, or late in the fall or early in January, and we started discussing what was needed, he looked at me and he remembered that I had advocated what he thought was a staggering number of fellowships, and he said to me, “You were right all the time, weren't you? about the fellowship business.” I very modestly said yes.

Well, we didn't get anyplace with the White House Conference on Cancer, Heart or Stroke, in '56. I again suggested it at a committee meeting--the Democratic National Committee--on health proposals, which was a subcommittee of the Platform Planning Committee. Mike Debakey was chairman of this health subcommittee, and a very good group of people was on it, including Florence Mahoney, Dr. Ian Papper, Will Clayton, and a number of other very good people.

I also didn't just trust to the recommendations of this committee to have a conference on cancer, heart and stroke, but David Lloyd, who was working for us at the time, was working on the Democratic platform in Los Angeles, and I took