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I don't see any way around it. You see, the truth is that in England and in Russia the average length of life is approximately the same it is in the United States, maybe a couple of years less, but they claim the same approximately. The Russians claim a little lower death rate than ours, because they have a very large number of doctors who do maybe not complicated surgery and who are not highly trained but they are at least able to give antibiotics or vaccinations or do simple things that keep the level of the health of the population fairly high. But if the United States had as many doctors per capita really well trained and health insurance so that everybody would have the right to get care when they need it, the average length of life here would be even better because our average income is higher and it would enrich the energy and productivity of the people, to say nothing about averting needless tragedies by the millions every year, of disabilities and unnecessary deaths.

Then, of course, that leads right up to another problem; that is, the problem of ageing and...

Ageing is enhanced by arteriosclerosis and cancer. You can age without having either of these diseases, as far as we know, but let us have answers to cancer and arteriosclerosis and the prime of life will be prolonged in a way. There will an average of 10 years put on the average length of life in the United States, maybe 15.