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How did Stevenson actually get along with some of these big-city, Irish politicians?

Like Daly?

Yes, someone like that.

Well, Daly at that time wasn't strongly for him. Before the '60 convention he never even asked whether or not he wanted his support. They weren't naturally sympathetic. But in '36 Daly was for him.

He always got along better with intellectuals than he did with just tough politicians. But I think that as time has gone on, his manner and his approach to people, as a result of all of his experience, is much more relaxed than it was in 1956.

Of course, he came out of the Middlewest, which. . .

Yes, in a certain way he was very shy, even in '56, and his manner was quite withdrawn as compared with most politicians. Early in March of '56, I was puzzled about the possibilities of whether or not Eisenhower's health would have any effect upon the campaign, and I took John Gunther, who was doing some important blood research in connection with arteriosclerosis, to Chicago, and together we visited Stevenson at Libertyville one night. Stevenson received us with a great deal of warmth and told me that