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and people on the grounds doing drills, you know, sort of forms of entertainment. Finally the Kennedy party arrived with Johnson and Stevenson and the Kennedy family. I sat about 50 feet in back of the platform where they were. Kennedy gave a very assured and very well written acceptance speech after Stevenson had made a short speech which was very graceful and which must have been very hard for him to do. When all this was over Stevenson joined me in a car, and we went to dine with the Monroneys, who had been so faithful to his cause, and with George Killian and Florence Mahoney. And I've never seen Stevenson really exhausted or completely depleted, except for that one night; he was completely faint with exhaustion. I had never seen him the least bit physically or emotionally exhausted before, but he really was that night.

When did you have an opportunity to congratulate candidate Kennedy?

I didn't see Kennedy until maybe October, because I knew him rather slightly and had no tremendous. . .

Did you have any problem there because of your open advocacy of Stevenson?

Oh, yes, I think so. If I had supported the Kennedys, I could have done or had anything at all in the world that they had the capacity to do or give. And while they forgave the Stevenson forces gradually, bit by bit, they never forgave them to the