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to go to the ranch. He was terribly busy, and I talked with her for a time. Then he was busy with John Macy and With Rusk and with a party of people. Finally, I ate lunch with them in the little Presidents dining room upstairs in the White House, and we kept talking. I was trying to interest him in a variety of things, but I'll tell you those later.

I was trying to urge him to put the full amount of money that the President's Commission on Cancer, Heart, and Stroke had urged. He said, “I'm afraid to tell you what I put in. You will say it isn't enough.”

They must find you unique among their friends.

Oh, I think they have so many friends, they're used to eccentric carryings on.

I spoke to the President and Mrs. Johnson that day, about asking foreign heads of states to the Inauguration in order to inaugurate the Great Society and get it started.

Is that going to materialize?

No. He said, “Every one of them will come and I'll have to see each one of them alone. It's just too much. I can't do it.”