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No, I hadn't talked to her much about this kind of thing. We were always talking about other things. She's very orderly in what she does. I hadn't really talked to her like this, particularly, before.

This was the result of her remark over the telephone?

Yes. “Suggest things to me if you think of something.” you know.

And how did she react, on the spur of the moment, to this?

She said, “Oh, I like the idea about the highways. We have planting of highways in Texas. Wildflowers have been planted by women's clubs, and the bluebonnets look so beautiful in good years, when there's rain.” And she said, “I've appreciated so much, the plantings in New York which I understand you did.”

Then, when I spoke to her about the possibility of making something very dramatic looking in the way of design on the streets, for the Inauguratin, she said, “Oh, I can just hear Lyndon. He'll say it costs too much.”

But you see, some of it got used, in any case.

I think that's about it, for the moment.

Oh, I went to see the President just before he left for Christmas, at the White House, just the day he was leaving