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few people like myself, in a limited area. In fact, I know it is.
Well, is this interest of his a congenial thing
Yes. He understands it, and especially Mrs.
Johnson does. He's very visual-minded. He's not musical at all,
I don't think, but he's very visual-minded. He understands
appearaces very well. He likes things to be beautifully ordered
and arranged. He doesn't know how to get it done, but he
likes it when he sees it, very much. Very visual-minded. In
fact, I am absolutely thrilled that such a thing has cometo pass,
that as President he has done this. While I wrote the memo
hoping that Mrs. Johnson would do something, the thought that
the President would embrace it on such a big scale and do something
about it is very encouraging to me. I think it's the
result of efforts of Udall, and probably of Goodwin, too. They've
all embraced the idea, and maybe made many suggestions. But it's
a great surprise and pleasure that it's gone this far.
Is your work here in the City of New York
considered something of a pilot project?
Yes, that was Mrs. Johnson's idea, and she said,
“Come talk about this, because you're the godmother of this idea.”
This was in her mind at least, that I was the godmother. She
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