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and many times I despair that it ever would get going. Now, actually as of the first of July, the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, which it's now called, has certified that it has the matching money which Congress offered a year ago January or early February.

That is, it has $15 million.

Fifteen million five to match the federal money. We may have some difficulties about this because some of the money is from foreign gifts, which have a greater value here than they have in the countries of origin, such as marble in Italy. The Marble the Italian government has offered us is worth double here what it's worth in Italy, and people who are lint-pickers, let us say, in the Treasury can question the evaluations of some of the gifts, but I still think we have enough to offset--even if they refuse the evaluations of some gifts--any disagreement about the evaluations.

That is, the prospective gifts forthcoming.

Well, some, yes; but the minute people here that the center can be built and that the matching funds are raised,