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that they would get their grants instead of being turned down. If she asks you to come, will you go?”

“Well,” said Michael DeBakey, yes, I'll go.

So I told the Princess that this important heart surgeon, if he were invited, would come to Belgium and talk to them about how to get grants from the United States if she invited him. well, very shortly she did invite him, maybe in 1959. Maybe it was in '59 or '60. He really became devoted to her and went there frequently. He taught there; he took patients to operate on she brought from Belgium; he taught people and did operations on television in Burssels and in Louvain and the major medical centers, and he's really made a great work of trying to help her. She continued to try to raise funds but she got relatively little in Belgium, and she seemed to have no influence at all with the state funds, which seemed to me would have been easy to do as she was certainly on good terms with the King, her stepson; and it seemed to me that between them they could have interested their ministers of health and the Belgium government as it's the main cause of death in Belgium, arteriosclerosis. But she was still really only interested in surgical aspects of heart problems. So maybe that's why it didn't get done.

At any rate, she finally decided she was going to hold an international conference in May of '62. She invited Florence Mahoney and me to come and visit her for the time of the