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medicine doesn't approve of doing anything new and doesn't think there are adequate reasons for doing anything. So no progress is made. They want to fill the beds with paying customers and that's that. So when the bill passed the Senate last week, I was at the National Heart Institutes Council meeting and I was happy to receive a telephone message from my secretary telling me to call the White House at once, which I did. I went out of the meeting to call the President's office, and the President got on the phone and said, “The cancer, heart and stroke bill has just passed and this is you.”

I said, “Well, it's certainly you. I couldn't have done anything about it by myself.”

We had a little talk along those lines, and then I began to worry about when there were going to be hearings on the House side. I don't think they're going to start until the end of this month, so we still hadn't got the bill completely passed.

Is that before your friend Orrin Harris?

Yes, my friend Orrin Harris is a little harder to deal with than Senator Hill. Well, that's that. But the President was interested enough and associated me sufficiently with it so that the first thing he thought of was to call me about it, and I thought it was very sweet of him.