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Which is really quite an indication of the kind of progress you've made in this area. If I cast my mind back to your account of earlier efforts, earlier efforts with Johnson in the Senate, my, what an advance you've made.

Well, God knows it's taken my life's blood.

It's taken efforts in all directions, hasn't it?

Oh, it's really been a terrible lot of work.

Now I think you wanted to talk about friends and allies.

Well, in connection with all of these efforts, in connection with the initiation of the efforts to get legislation and funds for medical research, of course a person who was most vital in all of this as far as I was concerned was Albert Lasker because without Albert's support, know-how and money, I couldn't have done anything--not only the money to support candidates for public office. You've either got to be able to control money or votes or you can't even get the attention of politicians, need I say?

No matter how humanitarian...

No matter how humanitarian your cause is, you just don't. They have too much competing for their attention.