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Secretary of Labor, It was the Children's Bureau which was under her and was headed by Miss Lenroot. I went in to see her, dressed in black with a tri-cornered hat, as usual, and she said she didn't believe in planned parenthood, that she was a theist, whatever that is. So I left the office as fast as I could.

What is your estimate of Frances Perkins?

Well, in that area I didn't think she was intelligent.

What was her opposition based on?

God knows!

Was Katherine Lenroot more sympathetic?

Not really, no.

The change of the name of the Birth Control Federation seemed to me a good thing, although Mrs. Sanger opposed it. There is something about the word “birth control” that seemed to prohibit children to the average person, and this was too great a handicap for a name.

It's related to permanent sterilization, I suppose.

Yes.

In January '42, there was annual dinner and we gave