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to get the money or the music was an entirely different matter and that you had to go to entirely different people and that it was a another world.

Well, a year passed and they had practically no money at all. As a matter of fact, in fiscal ‘47 they had $34,000, so that was the year it was passed. But we kept Glen Adams working and we got after Pepper very hard in the next session of Congress, when we realized that we hadn't gotten any money although we had the words in the bill.

So, about in July, ‘47, finally, $458,000 was appropriated and that was the first substantial appropriation that mental illness had ever had in the United States in any one place.

Who helped you with getting the money?

Pepper did.

Was Lister Hill involved in this?

He wasn't on the Appropriations Committee but he took the bother to go and make a plea for it. We didn't even know any of the people on the Appropriations Committee at that juncture. We learned very gradually.

This was the first important piece of Federal legislation in connection with mental health in the United States. The last one that had passed the Congress, which had been urged by Dorothea