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I just think caution. I think he was just surprised. I think the whole idea that you should do anything new about anything was a surprise to him and to everybody else. It seems incredible to me.

I keep thinking, as you talk about these things, about the old saying that when something touches a man's pocketbook, he becomes concerned, and here you're dealing with illness that touches a man's body, and you'd think he'd be equally concerned, but it doesn't necessarily follow.

I think the illness is too much to contempla to and too frightening and too anxiety-making and people subconsciously reject the whole thing. It must be. Something's wrong.

I don't say that I'm good or was right about what I did or how I did anything, but somebody else should have come along and done differently or better. It's very curious.

Why it required any thought, I didn't know, but to me the need for research in a group of diseases that was killing 50 percent of the population seemed self-evident. He telephoned me after a day or so and said he would favor such a bill, however. I was glad of this, because I didn't want his opposition. But how could he oppose it? He couldn't even think of how to do this.

After I returned from Florida in December, I went again to Washington and I consulted Oscar Ewing, who was the head of the