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together in the cloak room and they voted to report the bill out then and there to the full committee, just like that. The full committee finally reported it, and the heart institute bill was passed by the Senate on the consent calendar shortly thereafter--I think it was in May, '48.

The House Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee, which is where the bill was, was very pressed with work, but I had interested Jack Cheeter of the American Cancer Society, who was working for the American Cancer Society on the bill, and he had worked for Vannevar Bush and he had also been a staff member on one of Pepper's committee, so he took the bother to write the House committee's report on the hearings. Of course, they never have staff enough and nobody has any time to do the work and Cheeter very kindly did the report for the committee.

The full committee reported it about June 1st. Then came the matter of getting a roll call on the House calendar. I never realized that such horrors could exist, that there could be such complications on the House side, because in the mental health bill that we'd been concerned with Percy Priest had done the work on the House bill. Here we were with the work on both sides, and it looked like a maze.

Who was chairman of the Rules? Leo Howland at that time?

Yes, he was indeed.

It was almost impossible to get a rule as the Congress