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Nixon agreed to it, Dominick agreed and was the author of a bill which was really nearly like S-34, which was called 1828. Nixon turned Richardson and everybody in the administration right around, and all that he wasn't able to do was to shut off the scientists because the people in the NIH were still poking up the scientists to complain and oppose the bill, because in 1828 the President would have been the one to whom the conquest of cancer agency would have reported. But they continued to do this, although on the face they gave lip service to it -- they were really doing all they could to get the scientists moving.

This is remarkable.

It was a remarkable switch-around.

Is Mr. Bobst such a persuassive individual?

Very persuasive.

What's his official position?

He's the honorary chairman of the board of Warner -Lambert, and he was the one, when President Nixon was defeated for governor in California in '62, he urged him to come to New York. He arranged for him to have a partnership in a law firm where the Warner-Lambert business was or where he got him the Warner -Lambert business, add he supported him heavily in the campaign of '68 and he has tremendous influence with him when he wants to use it. And he used it. So the opposition was cut right away from Mr. Nelson and Cranston.