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So he has background of interest in cancer and I suggested him to Yarborough because Laurance Rockefeller and Anna Hoffman and Foote thought he would be good. I had only met him once and had a good impression of him, but didn't have any knowledge of his capacity but they all thought he would be good. So instead of being the chairman of the thing myself, which is what Yarborough wanted me to be, which would have been disaster, we got this very energetic man who I think will -- delivered an excellent report, and will get some action.

Are you on this committee too?

On the Cancer Advisory Board? They haven't appointed yet. I don't know whether I will be or won't be. I really don't care.

Is there a real possibility that you will be?

It's possible, but I don't know.

Is the President aware of your intense interest and rolein this?

Well, he might be through Elmer Bobst, I doubt through anybody else. But other people in the White Hous know this and I've been to several meetings in the White Hous about it. But there were innumerable meaneuvers, meetings, problems, troubles with the thing. And when we ran the ad, Senator Nelson's office called up theadvertising agency and demondedto know who had paid for the ad and got into all kinds of things that were really none of his business. You know, he was violently hostile and the science writers became very hostile about the idea, they were so much on the side of the National Institutes of