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Oh yes, there's great enthusiasm to get the money. Oh, for the idea, immunotherapy? Anybody who knows anything about it is interested, yes, anybody who has any right to know anything about it is interested, thinks it's hopeful.

Would you also talk about Hodgkins' disease?

That's another disease in which there are a large number of hopeful cures being made -- these long regressions -- with a group of drugs and also with X-rays.

I read a little about it and what I read stressed that there was a team approach in the solution of this problem.

Yes. In the University of Stanford, in California, Dr. Kaplan has been very successful as a radiologist in treating one stage of Hodgkins, and an associate Dr. Rosenberg has been very successful in treating Hodgkins with three or four different drugs in rotation. They have really changed the outlook for Hodgkins patients dramatically.

Is this a unique approach to the solving of cancer?

Well, I think the use of a group of drugs in rotation is new.

A group of doctors working in different areas?

No, there are centers like Memorial and Brasil Park and at Childrens Hospital in Boston -- M.D. Anderson -- where there are groups of people working.

Do you expect that under the new cancer federal setup this idea will