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and they saw what it was all about, they became more enthusiastic than they were before.

Yes, it serves to generate enthusasm.

Yes, so I think of doing it for one more year at least, and then we'll see what happens, maybe go back to one award for --

You said in July you were planning to go to the Johnson ranch in the fall.

I did go, yes, and I talked to the President about various things. I really ought to try to recall my conversations with him.

I think you should.

But I'd have to sit down and write a few notes before I could do that. I'll have to do something about that.

Perhaps at the same time you'd comment on going to Washington for the funeral.

Oh yes. Well, the funeral was almost uplifting because it was on such a kind of positive note. They services were so, well, really spirited and moving, but not saddening, you know, in a kind of wonderful way -- did you see it on television?

Yes, I saw a great deal of it on television. She seemed to set a keynote to the whole thing.

Yes.