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in the areas that you're particularly interested in?

I am. I am. I think that Beame is more practical, and he's a decent man who wants to do a good job and is very pragmatic and down to earth, and he'll see that the city's credit is good. And the city will be better, I think.

It won't be a Fun City.

It won't be a Fun City. It wasn't a Fun City anyway. It used to be a Fun City in the twenties, it seems to me.

When you were young and gay.

Yes. Another problem that I've been interested in is depression. For many years, there was something one could do about depression. There were numerous drugs that could be used and one of these was used in state hospitals, but it was very little known by laymen who were having problems at home with depressed fathers, mothers, children, that there was anything to do about a depression, a serious depression. I asked Ruth maier who works with us to see what she could do. She was in touch with a Dr. Fieve of Columbia, who had done some work on lithium, and he had shown that it reduced manic depression. She publicized an AMA meeting at which he made a report, big report, very extensively. Then she got, or I guess I got maybe, the Joshua Logans to go on the air to explain the success of his treatment. He was very depressed and having a terrible time and had been to an analyst for years, and