Part: 12         Session: 145678910111213141516171819202122         Page 417418419420421422423424425426427428429430431432433434435436437438439440441442443444445446447448449450451452453454455456457458459460461462463464465 of 999

Ingram, of the state, saying that they would match the money, but Cimino never returned, never sent the requests to the city and so we never got any funds for treatment of the people, although they screened the people. They send them, these were mostly poor people, to a place where they would be treated -- youknow, a specific

-- the job was only half done.

The job was only half done. No use to tell somebody who's 14 years old and poverty-stricken and has high blood pressure to go to his family doctor. They don't have family doctors. So this was largely very futile, and I was one of the people who recommended that Cimino not be reappointed and recommended Dr. Bellin, who just has been appointed, be appointed, and I'm hoping he'll cooperate.

This is in the new administration.

In the new administration. My sister, and Ruth Maler, have organized meetings of the city's research council this spring, on the subject, and gave it a considerable amount of publicity, about the need for this, but so far we were frustrated as far as city action goes. Of course, a good many people in the city who do have money have gone to have their blood pressure taken, as did your wife. But the people that are really poor, medically poor, are large -- oh, there are a million people on relief in New York City alone, so you can see how many people are medically indigent, and they just aren't reached.

Are you more optimistic about the new regime in the city of New York,