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the American Cancer Society to make a contribution to the very expensive series -- it's costing around 7 million dollars to produce and distribute on public TV. The Cancer Society is giving them $50,000. And I'm sure this may be a very useful and important way of involving the average person in sensible health information and maybe making them act on the information. You know Sesame St.?

This is to be directed to adults?

To adults, yes. First adult series that she's done.

Public television is an awfully good vehicle for that.

I should say it is. In relation to cancer, I've interested Mrs. Haupt in financing another cancer conference on advances in cancer management and treatment.

This in addition to the one she held last November?

Yes. This is going to be in the Waldorf this November, and thank God we do have some advances in treatment, as I said. I told you about the breast cancer.

This is to be an international gathering?

Well, it's a national gathering. Then, in relation to cancer research, Mrs. Blair and I visited Duke University at Durham to see Dr. Shingleton who's head of their cancer research center. And Duke University's extremely cordial and their center seems to be gathering a lot of momentum.