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McCann is going to publish it for us.

What would the federal government do without it? HEW relies on it.

Yes. Then this June a friend of mine, English friend of mine Lady Baillie who owns a beautiful castle called Leeds -- not at Leeds but near Maidstone -- in England south of London, has decided to give it to a trust and have it used as an international medical research meeting center. And her friend Lord Geoffrey Lloyd is very interested in this, one of the few laymen I know who's very interestedin medicine, and he came to consult with me about it from England, and I introduced him to Dr. Hugh Luckey and to Dr. Rauscher and Dr. Cooper, Dr. Peck, who is now deputy assistant secretary for HEW, deputy to Charles Edwards who's the assistant secretary, and we hope there may be a series of meetings that will start either in the fall or the spring, of international meetings, maybe in cancer, heart and other --

Held at the castle?

At the castle, modest small meetings, but with people from England and the United States and maybe other countries.

How interesting, and what a potential for real progress.

We hope. That's what we hope.

Were the doctors particularly interested in this effort?

Yes, they were, very interested.

And what about the money for conferences, where's it coming from?