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But you said last time, as I recall, that doctors had now come around to the point where they were willing and even anxious in some cases to treat high blood pressure.

They are, but not all doctors: and patients, unless that constantly get reminded will forget, and there will be new cases of high blood pressure who won't be measured. This is something that has to go on indefinitely because it isn't anything that you get cured of. It's like diabetes, and diabetes at least has some symptoms, and high blood pressure doesn't have any syptoms or very few unless you're very seriously sick with it. So it's a special problem. But at any rate something is happening, thank God. It's the first time I've seen a big decline in the death rate in something I've been associated with -- in the death rate,

Well, now, monies, as I understand, have been made available to the states.

Well, we've got this tiny amount of money that's just beginning to be available. We got up to $24 million in the Senate to do intensive programs in selected states and maybe one program in a state where the population would be helped on a kind of contract basis where even if you're on social security or medicare or medicaid and consequently don't get your doctors' bills paid for and