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I think he'd be more dedicated than ever before in this area?

Yes, he was wonderful about it, and I really think that it's meant a great deal, but it didn't come out all that much in money. We've only gotten eight hundred and sixty-seven million instead of eight hundred and fifteen. We got about four million dollars more from the budget, so it was only an increase from eight, nineteen to eight, sixty-seven.

He was at your luncheon in November. I saw him there.

Yes, he came for a moment.

He looked very frail and quite florid.

Yes, but he looked quite -- I saw him a week ago and he looked quite well. However, I've had a terrible, terrible rumor, which I am trying to confirm, but I can't get his doctor because I've lost his telephone number and will have to wait until tomorrow, that he's going to have to have a colostomy, another operation, which is a sign that the tumor has spread, although he's been taking various kinds of drugs. The NOI bladder cancer , of course, has really not done a good job on clinical trials. They've been doing what they call basic research in bladder cancer.

Well, at the same time they've been doing basic research, there were drugs they could have tried, and they really haven't done it. They're just beginning. And I'm trying to see if I can push Dr. Frei of Farber Center, who has a new drug called AD-32, which in animals looks very, very good. It's an analogue of