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the UN Secretary.

But you haven't had any real contact?

No, I haven't had any real contact.

Well, is she not a possibility? I mean, she is interested in mental health.

Yes. But you can be in all these things, but if your husband isn't willing to find appropriations for what needs to be done, it doesn't make much difference.

From all indications, her voice is a strong one.

Yes, but we'll see what happens as to the money. (LAUGHTER) I'm praying she will.

What about Miss Lillian? Have you had any more contact with her?

No. No. I think she's wonderful, but I haven't had any contact with her, because I think that she won't get into it really, you know.

She's rarely in Washington, is she?

But the Waldorf dinner went very well and was, from his point of view, effective politically, because instead of having a long reception line, only the people at the table he went to stood up and the rest of the people went on eating their dinner, and it made it much more agreeable for the people and it seemed to them to be more attractive for him to come to theirtable than for them to be standing in a line. You know? And I think it was, don't you?