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sources, and they've done very well.

I, this vacation period, read a book written -- called JOURNEY, by the Massies. You're mentioned in there. You were helpful to them at one stage.

Yes. They had a most terrible time. Do you know them?

No. I do not.

They're wonderful.

They're very courageous people.

Very courageous. Wonderful. Wonderful.

Well, that's it. Let's have some iced tea or something and go and talk to Anna Hoffman.

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To say that I hope you avoid any reoccurrence of shingles or anything of that sort in the coming year.

Thank you. Thank you.

Don't get too exercised about the problems we have to deal with.

Well, you know, When you think of the amount of money that's been spent . These are the pictures that were sold. I don't know if you're interested in them.

Yes, I am.

And the amount of effort it's taken me to get the money together, and the lack of practical application that it represents,