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Yes, of course they would.

And the ad was really wonderful. We should have a copy of that for this. It should be here. I should make a note to have Jane send it to you because it's really a marvelous ad and it's very characteristic of her style.

How do you take to this endeavor of going around lobbying, as you call it?

Oh, I've done this for the last thirty years. I'm used to it. It's very tiring for me.

Well now, how many men will you call upon in a day?

In a day? Well, something between three and five. You can't do more than that usually, and it takes about two or three days to cover the situation, and you don't always cover it. You have more luck some days than others.

Are these men who are on a sub-committee?

They're always on a sub-committee. I don't visit anybody that isn't on the sub-committee on HEW Appropriations except Tip O'Neill. He helps me. If they're not crucial to the decision, they don't receive a visit from me.

And you go with specific legislation in mind?

Oh, with specific amounts of money, and charts, including these. Here are the Charts that I bring them. Here are the accomplishments in cancer. Five-year cancer cures. Here's the cancer recommendations I bring. And this is the whole correspondence so far on interferon, if that interests you.

Yes, indeed.