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This is the works on that.

So you go fortified with mighty impressive material.

Oh, well, certainly. You wouldn't get anywhere otherwise. That's how we have the money for cancer, heart, and eye. There's nobody else doing it that comes with any specific facts, except Dr. Maumanee, the great eye doctor, who is a great witness and lobbyist, and also has at least four patients on the committees.

And then what? Do you stay with them and do they go through the material you leave with them?

I never hand them anything that they can't see at a glance of an eye. That's why they're color charts.

And short memos?

And short memos. Certainly. Otherwise, you know, they have too -- it's too much.

Well, and then you stay with them. How long does an interview take?

You could spend a lot of time with them, but if you don't get them in six minutes, you haven't got them. And, you know, they often don't promise anything. They just say they'll think about it or something like that. But the answer is that we have more money each time.

Well, that's certainly an invaluable kind of service.

Well, it came from five hundred and fifty thousand