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Mrs. Goetz brought me together with a very interesting
doctor called Ben Horowitz, head of the CITY OF HOPE. Now, the
CITY OF HOPE has a team of men who are doing work on recombinant
DNA, which is a technique to make a bacteria make a hormone or
other kind of product. They have been able to cause a bacteria
to make insulin, in pure form. And this team at the CITY OF HOPE
are the ones that devised the methodology of doing it. They are
associated with a commercial firm called Genentech, at least some
of their research is supported by them. It's an astonishing
hospital and an astonishing research effort.
Where is this hospital?
It's outside of Los Angeles at Duarte -- near San Gabriel,
and it's a research hospital which is completely free and supported
by voluntary contributions, mostly from Jewish groups -- an
astonishingly brilliant innovative effotrt.
Also at Mrs. Goetz's house, I met a very intelligent
and interesting psychoanalyst. I haven't known many good
psychoanalysts in many years socially.
They're not very adept socially, are they?
No. They don't usually come out much socially. But
since I knew Franz Alexander, who died, and Karl Menninger, who
was opposed to the giving of tranquillizing and anti-depressant
drugs because he thought it ruined psychoanalysis, I haven't really
had many friends in the analysis field. But this man, Dr. John
Lindon, was -- is young and very intelligent, and I thought very
very interesting. I was delighted to meet him.
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