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Of course, at the parties of Mrs. Goetz one meets people like Walter Mathau and his wife, and Jimmy Stewart and a great variety of Hollywood stars. But the most interesting people, to me, were Dr. Horowitz and Dr. Lindon.

You have quite a circle of friends out there now.

I do, yes, I have. I enjoy the climate and I enjoy the people and the place.

But you also have them up in San Francisco, don't you?

No, relatively fewer in San Francisco. Now, I did go there from Beverly Hills to San Francisco twice, one to dedicate a memorial research center to Rosalind Russell, my friend, and whose husband got federal money to have a research in arthritis center at the University of California established in her name. That was a touching ceremony, when I went to that.

Another day a few weeks before, I went to visit the home office of the Syntex Co., which is a big drug company that makes -- well, it makes a well known contraceptive and drug called Synalar, a drug for skin problems.

How did you spell that?

Synalar. They were supposed to be interested in interferon, but actually I don't think they'd heard anything about it, and in any detail. I came there through Charlie Allen, a banker friend in New York, to visit the president, Dr. Bowers. They had their whole research top staff there, and I gave them a summary of the picture in interferon and some memos, and it really got them started. I urged them to go to see Dr. Mathilde Krim at Sloan Kettering and get her collaboration. I think now and in the