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So it was very difficult (the choice)?

Yes, including one to a man who has found out how to culture the organism of malaria, and this is the first time it's ever been done, and it will undoubtedly lead to a vaccine for malaria.

That will have repercussions in many parts of the world.

Yes, there are millions of children dying of malaria a year in Africa, and all over Africa and Southeast Asia people are dying, are being disabled by it, and it's one of the great practical advances that I can think of.

It must have been hard to pass him over.

It was for me. I would have liked to have seen him get it.

But there were four awards to be given.

There were two basic awards, and one public service award this year. They will be given on November 16th. Now, that is really the outline of it. Can you think of anything else?