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going to be at Leeds Castle, the 31st of July.

I see your fine hand in that.

You can see my fine hand in that. But that took place sort of far back, because I didn't push the decision about having the meeting there. They just decided it. So --

You said that an earlier meeting this past year was in Mexico.

An earlier meeting was in Mexico, in Acapulco, was very pleasant. It was a very interesting meeting. The drive and the administrative skill and intelligence of the top management of Braniff is really extraordinary, and the directors can't help but be astonished at what they've been able to accomplish.

How many directors are there?

About 14. There are three women.

Three women?

Three women -- the former ambassador to Great Britain, Mrs. Anne Armstrong, and Mrs. Averell Harriman and myself.

How interesting.

Very, very interesting group of people.