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But it won't eventually die, as legislation?

It won't die, and I think undoubtedly we'll get the bill passed next year. I have written to Douglas Cator about -- oh no, I've written to him about something else. No, I haven't talked to him about a separate Eye Institute, but I will talk to him about it. I can't believe that he'll be really opposed to it. The Budget was against it, but the Budget's always against everything like that, and when the President hears that there are 51 sponsors in the Senate and 30 sponsors in the House, I don't think he's going to be against it. It doesn't sound to me like a major problem.

would that be set up in Washington?

Yes, it would be another Institute of Health -- in other words, making two institutes out of one, because the Neurology and Blindness Institute, never was a substantial enough part of the money of the Neurological Diseases and Blindness Institute given to research in blindness. always, being short-changed, and there was never any major doctor or administrator in charge of the funds for both training and research in blindness.

This in itself is giving a stature to it.

It's giving it stature. And eyes are very special. They are part of the rest of the body, but to people who are interested in