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I am not optimistic, I think the numbers are against him, but I think that he was heroic in trying, after he had a very bad start. He makes the issue of the need not to forget the poor and the sick, not to forget the Democratic liberal ideas which Carter seems to have forgotten all about, to be for equal rights for women, for the right to have an abortion if you so choose -- he's been for all the things that make some sense to the rank and file of human beings. And Mr. Carter seems to forget all of that.

And yet he doesn't seem to strike . . .

He struck a chord in New York State, in California, in Pennsylvania, in Michigan -- am I wrong?

I think he did.

Well, that's quite a lot, but I think his bad start really was very dangerous. Then I think the hostage business kept people all in a flurry, thinking they must support the President, and I think that one just doesn't know what could happen. I've never met anybody that's enthusiastic about Carter. There are enthusiastic Reaganites, but they are very conservative people. Nobody that has met Anderson is crazy about him. You have to have people that are crazy about people to get these things done. I think Kennedy would make the best President of