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giving her any interferon. Maybe they gave her one or two shots, but no great. . .

But I think she was too far along for a drug that wasn't more potent than that version of it at that time. We also had hoped that immune interferon would be available in time to help her, but it isn't available yet, and we had hoped it would be available last March. So it was really a very great disappointment and a very crushing thing for me, because here was someone who had worked with me for 29 years and was interested in all this business, who knew everything and had helped me in every way in my life.

It's ironical that she should be afflicted.

And she was only 54 years old.

That I suppose was not in her favor, was it?

Well, 54 years old is not very old.

No, but is it not true that certain types of cancer are much more active. . .

As you get older?

No, with younger people.

Oh, younger people sometimes have very virulent forms of cancer -- breast cancer I mean.

That's what I mean.