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that had all the facts. We sold about 3,000 copies of the book, which is a lot, considering how averse people are at learning any figures.

Yes. So there was a great loss there.

Oh, terrible.

You went to the funeral?

I went to the funeral in Aberdeen, Miss.

Kind of hard to get there, isn't it?

We went to Dallas, and we went in a small plane.

Then while I was in California I visited the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation.

Yes, now this is another facet of your interest that amazes me.

I am interested in fuel conservation, and I am interested in new developments, and I was told about it-that they had a design for a plane that would run on liquid hydrogen, and I went to see the man who had it in hand who was one of their senior advisers, called Willis Hawkins, and he showed me the design, and he told me what the practical aspects of it were. It seems that liquid hydrogen is fairly cheap to make, that you make it from of natural gas, and that it certainly is not as difficult as getting oil, and that it makes another form of power.

I talked to Alan Cranston about it, and Cranston asked the Defense Department to comment on what their opinion of it was, and they have not as far as I know replied. I