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Yes.

The same thing you were talking about earlier.

Yes. But this happens relatively seldom, and it costs money for people to come long distances from around the world, and that's very important. But there could be smaller conferences. Actually, this group which Cranston has supported among people living in the United States -- they can come for two or three days. You don't have to fly to England to go to a conference.

No, but do encourage him, if he does that sort of thing, to not held such conferences within New York City or any metropolitan area. They should be isolated.

Yes.

So there are no blandishments, you see.

Yes. He's held some conferences actually in his rooms as the Majority Whip of the United States Senate, and that's really quite a remarkable place to hold meetings on medical research. He is the only person very seriously interested in medical research in the Senate or in the House -- seriously interested. I don't mean just sympathetic, because Magnuson is sympathetic and others are sympathetic. He is interested in the subject.

Yes, a real friend.

Or at least I hope it will be.. I hope it will get some specifics accomplished.