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he's presumably sending it to Caltech to have it sequenced shortly. This is going to sound like ancient history in two years. It's going to sound astonishing that all this wasn't done sooner, but this is where we're at.

What about Dr. Sam Baron down in Texas? He also was working with immune.

Sam Baron has been given from the Texas Interferon Fund $250,000 to try to make pure interferon, and he said he could do it in six weeks. He hasn't done it yet. He made it for mice, but he hasn't been able to make human, stabilized human.

So he's stymied there.

He's stymied. So Vilcek has made it, and Mrs. Krim at Sloan-Kettering has got some pure interferon but maybe not enough to clone yet, but we're in a very crucial moment because within the next three months there's surely going to be. interferon is sequenced and I hope cloned.

You talked about the Hoffman-LaRoche discoveries. There are so many different sub-species. How does this tie in with Syntex and Sloan-Kettering? They've been able to take pieces of interferon. Is this the same thing?