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and that was to marry Baylor University people with M.B. Anderson.

They have received pure interferon from Roche in order to see if they can avert colds or flu by cloned immune if spray. Merigan has shown This at stanford.

But you were going to try to see if you could the groups together.

No, it was impossible. There are such jealousies between institutions that it would be like getting NYU and Columbia together. You would never do it. (laughs)

And now you said last year that Schering and Hoffman-LaRoche thought they could begin clinical trials in 12 months.

Yes, and they've how done it. I mean not Schering but Roche started. They gave out pure leucocyte interferon about the first -- between the first of February and the first of March for Phase I trials, and they made their schedule. But Schering felt that they had been beaten, and they were going to go for immune if. They are still involved. I have not talked to anyone these recently.

Well, what about these clinical trials? Have you had any word on them?