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Various doctors you had also.

We had Dr. James Holland, Bernie Fisher, Dr. Dr. DeBakey and Dr. Paul Berg. And they all spoke, and I think that people were very interested. And if we'd had to mark up the bill that week, we'd have done very well. (chuckles)

You made that kind of an impact on the leaders.

Yes.

That was the purpose of it, wasn't it?

Yes, that was the purpose of it. But then, you know, the whole thing got dragged out, and now nothing will be done until September, and what they will remember is dubious. (chuckles)

Well, you made an impress...

A little. But these things are so long winded.

What else have you done in Washington to augment the appropriations?

What have I done to augment the appropriations? Well,