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That's my opinion. That's my opinion.

You mentioned arthritis, and I know you're interested in that subject.

In arthritis, yes. Well, I have gotten Senator Pepper to hold hearings this spring on arthritis, and there is a bill in his office which takes arthritis away from metabolic diseases and from digestive diseases and kidney diseases and makes it stand alone on the money that it has so that it will get some attention from people who really care about arthritis, and we're going to hope that the bill will pass. There may be a lot of trouble on the House side -- I don't know --, even on the Senate side because it goes to Hatch, and Hatch is a Mormon from Utah and very rigid and very reactionary, and he may well hold it up. It's going to take a lot of work on my part to do it.

Well, now, arthritis is a disease that has a certain emotional appeal, too.

Yes, but nothing like cancer.

No, but it's pretty widespread.

It's widespread but in varying degrees. The people that