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Interview #22, Part II

I want to open this session with a quotation from that remarkable script about your life, which was read and presented with pictures....

Oh, yes, did that amuse you?

...at the Lord and Taylor Rose Award. Yes, it certainly did. But there's a quotation I want to use, and this is: “Being with her (that is, Mary) is like being on vacation. Your head is clear of petty troubles and you can take on something new.” And I begin that because that has been my experience, too.

Oh, that's wonderful.

I think we should begin by perhaps some continuity with a few of the things you mentioned last time. For instance, in 1981 you told me that Hoffmann-LaRoche had purified leukocyte interferon through collaboration with Genentech of California.

They had indeed.

That is, through the efforts of John Burns. And in the doing they learned that there were at least 12 different sub-species to leukocyte. Well, I wondered what has evolved from that.