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cost some money, isn't it?

Oh, sure, it's going to cost money. I'll just have to fish it out of what money I have. It isn't going to cost an enormous amount of money. I have a young man who did work for Senator Magnusson who was a chief clerk of the Senate Appropriations Committee, so he knows all the mechanics of registration and appropriations and all the members of the Senate committee and their staffs. Also, Mike Gorman is going to help with it, who has been working for me for the last 22 years about.

And how active is Mike now?

Well, Mike is very active at the Arthritis Institute and the blood pressure funds, getting federal funds for the states. For high blood pressure we got about $15 million so far. . .if it isn't all cut out before the bills are all passed and all the conferences have taken place. Mike is quite active. The man who worked for Magnuson is Terry Lierman.

Well, I think that's very fortunate, that you latched onto some- Body knowledgeable like that.

Yes. Well, I'm also supporting the making of television spots for stroke.

Yes. Before you get onto that, let me ask you again about this