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others.

Well, that's always the case. Some of them are very effective and others not so much. But I wonder if it isn't due in part to the kind of approach which the media -- television news and also the papers --, the approach they take. They always seem to be much more interested in talking about murders and that sort of thing.

Yes. The fact that you doesn't interest them.

It doesn't interest them at all.

Murder is very interesting.

It's the spectacular thing, but maybe some of the fault lies with them, you know.

It does, sure. But what can we do about them? (pause)

You say that there's an 8% decline. . . Voice: From March, '81 to March '82.

She was making the point that there has been some improvement of