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Reagan is. He was always very sympathetic to health problems when we would lobby him in the Senate, and I'm sure he would be very happy to have more money for areas that need it.

So the prospect isn't...

Is poor...until 1984. I don't know who we're going to get in '84.

What are your relations with the people in the Reagan Administration? Have you made any impact there?

No, I wouldn't say. I've been friendly with Mrs. Reagan, as you can see; and if she ever takes into her mind to try to do something, she might be able to do it. But I don't see any way to get anything done now short of that. They have four friends that I know that have cancer. If those people die, it might come over them that something should have been done to prevent it.

That often is a very potent testimonial.

Yes, but it's not a good way to have to do anything. Anybody can imagine that they don't want their friends to die of cancer...or themselves...or of a heart attack or of a stroke, for that matter.